Notes on Rosenburg, Himmler and Christianity

First, I am not going to trust a so-called "Rosenberg Diary" which conveniently appeared in 2013 after allegedly having been stuffed into a Pennsylvania attic by a man who was a traitor to Germany and who was also a US government employee. The same diary is being used to help uphold the Holocaust narrative. The convenience is more than a cohencidence. Furthermore, the "Rosenberg Diary" is not legitimate simply because it is said to echo some of the things found in the Goebbels Diary, another work with questionable origins wrapped in a story that has a less authentic provenance than the "Diary of Anne Frank". They are all spurious, of dubious origin, and none of them should be trusted.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-de/pr/long-lost-rosenberg-diary-recovered

I have the same reservations with "Hitler's Table Talk", for the precisely the same reasons. Albert Speer's "Inside the Third Reich" is useless drivel, upholding a post-war jewish perspective. Speer made derogatory remarks concerning Hitler after the war, and his own daughter wrote of the myths he constructed for himself after he was let out of prison. You can believe all of the lies of jews and their sycophants if you so desire, but you will never get me to accept them. If your points concerning the philosophical and religious nature of National Socialism are valid, they should be demonstrable from materials published by the parties involved while they lived, before the outcome of the war was known, so that we know they are relatively objective and somewhat trustworthy.

Rosenberg was accused of being partly jewish by a Hungarian jew journalist, but that was not my source for the statement. He certainly was not of exclusively German ancestry. Whether his having been part jew can be documented or not, and it probably cannot, we have German friends who are sympathetic to National Socialists who post at wintersonnenwende.com and who do accept it. One of them, whose given name is Otto, stated it as a fact here:

https://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/pages/another-response-tales-jim-condit-jr-os

I know the individual and his real name, or I would never have published his letter on my website. So I have just messaged a couple of days ago to ask him if he has any specific documentation. He has only replied with a vague description of a German encyclopedia published before 1960, but I doubt that is within reach today. On the other hand, I have enquired with Carolyn Yeager, a good friend of mine, and she said that there is no basis for believing that Rosenberg was Jewish, "nor for Adolf Eichmann, which is widely believed!" So Otto is not alone, at least in his view of Eichmann. But Carolyn and I had never discussed this subject before. Perhaps Otto was wrong about Eichmann and Rosenberg, but I always found him to be trustworthy in most other aspects of the subject (NS Germany), so I trusted him in that area. I do not read German, so I have to rely on others in that regard.

So, assuming Rosenberg was not a jew, even one Alfred Rosenberg does not add up to pagan Nazis, or atheist Nazis, and he was not even a pagan or a true atheist. He has been described as one or the other, but neither are true. While I never looked at his work before, I did in order to make this reply, and I found something completely contrary to the popular claims. In his own words and speeches he himself professed that he was a Christian, and he was at least something of a Christian even if his Christianity was esoteric, perhaps even both Gnostic and Marcionite. Here are quotes from his book, The Myth of the 20th Century:

"There is no proof for the often made claim that Jesus was a Jew. Indeed, there is much to show the contrary. Jesus possibly was Aryan, or partially so, showing the Nordic type strongly." - Myth of the 20th Century, p.411.

"The smiling blond child who often gazed at the world with unhesitant heroism was transformed into a broken down figure tortured by pain, with distorted
features and suppurating wounds. The feeling of total collapse, of despair, of sacrificial death, became the medieval counterpart to the self evident heroism of a Rüdiger, a Hildebrand, a Dietrich or a Siegfried. " Myth of the 20th century, page 292.

"The Gospel of Saint John, which still retains an aristocratic spirit, strove to defend Christianity against this collective bastradisation, orientalism, and Judaisation." - Myth of the 20th Century, page 88.

I would fully agree that Christ was racially an Aryan, and certainly not a jew. Then, I would fully agree with Rosenberg where he wrote: "The young wish to grasp the world and Christianity from their own essence, from Germanic values; to assert their self apparent right to this world, but which (especially today) must be regained with hard struggle." - Myth of the 20th Century (pagination uncertain in my PDF copy)

The citations may be verified here, but not with the same pagination:

https://ia903408.us.archive.org/23/items/the-myth-of-the-20th-century/The%20Myth%20of%20the%2020th%20Century.pdf

I can argue effectively, and explain how Rosenberg did not understand Paul of Tarsus (who only went to White nations, and whose "world" was only White nations, which Martin Luther also attested), and he did not seem to completely understand that the churches themselves never followed Paul or Tarsus, or Christ, although he seemed to be onto that, but that is well beyond the scope of the issue here. He also did not understand the differences in meaning between the terms Judah, Judaean and jew, which are indeed significant. I doubt you understand them either, so scoff all you want.

In the preface to his 3rd Edition, Rosenberg himself had written: "An undoubtedly serious attempt to cleanse the personality of Christ from the non Christian Pauline, Augustine and other additions, has as a consequence brought forth a one sided fury among the ruling utilisers of the distortion of the spiritual figure of Jesus; not because high religious values were touched upon, but because a position of political power attained through the spiritual anguish of millions is threatened by a potential proud awakening."

I am not going to get into all of the details of his writing - his real writing - but he certainly was not supportive of paganism or atheism, and he was not anti-Christian, in Myth of the 20th Century. While I would not throw Paul under the bus, because Rosenberg misunderstood him, I also wholeheartedly agree with the rest of that statement, which describes what he called "negative Christianity", and it is that very thing which Hitler had done in the spirit of National Socialism, because honestly, the churches have never been Christian, at least since the dawn of the 4th century AD.

So while Rosenberg may have had his faults, from my perspective, he certainly was not anti-Christ, just anti-Church, and I would not blame him for that. Hitler and Goebbels were also justly critical of the churches, while at the same time recognizing their importance in guiding the morals of the people. If you are not entirely familiar with the evils of the Weimar years, you may not realize the importance of that. But if you think positively of the apathy and depravity of the Weimar years, then you must be a jew.

Materials archived at wintersonnenwende express suspicions of Rosenberg from other Germans in other ways as well, even claims by Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe that Rosenberg was a Bolshevik spy:

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/dictator/dictator04.html

The words of a German prince who was also an NSDAP member and defender of the cause up until his death have more weight than some pagan's opinion of Rosenberg because Rosenberg supposedly wrote what the pagan wants to hear about religion in the Reich in some spurious "diary". Nobody read or accepted Rosenberg's religious deliberations in the Hoax of the 20th Century, and especially not Hitler.

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/NSChristianity.html

That Himmler was no occultist, and certainly no pagan, and that he was friendly to Christianity, is documented in an interview of his famous daughter, Gudrun, which I will link for you on a pagan website:

http://www.mourningtheancient.com/gudrun.htm

Or from Archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/gudrun-himmler-burwitz-1992-en/mode/2up

and also here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvXN9v-wFZ4

As Gudrun is recorded as having said, "you certainly have read enough of the victor's version of our history." This is true of most pagans, who would rather use the lies of the jews as an excuse to interpret the entire history of National Socialism to suit themselves, rather than understand it for what it really is.

Like Prince Friedrich Christian, I would rather believe Gudrun Himmler, who was also faithful to her father until she died, than some jew revisionists or the pagans who follow them.

All of the statements from Himmler on Christianity, including the vow taken by all SS troops, are documented in the first three minutes of this video by Dennis Wise, but I am not going to fetch them for you. Dennis included a citation for an oath taken by SS men:

https://media.christogenea.org/videos/wmfinck/secret-masonic-victory-world-war-two-part-19-jesus-was-not-jew

Dennis Wise citations:

"The Third Reich is the first power which not only recognises, but puts into practice the principles of the papacy" - Franz Von Papen, Chancellor of Germany, 1932 (I think Von Papen confused Catholicism with Christianity, which is something a Catholic would do, and Dennis Wise is also a Catholic.)

"In ideological training, I forbid every attack on Christ as a person, since such attacks or insults that Christ was a Jew are unworthy of us and certainly historically not true." - Heinreich Himmler, Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf, 28th June, 1938, Berlin.

"In this obeying unalterable laws are included the sacred belief of our ancestors, that everything on this earth was created by God and inspired by God. Only foolish, malicious and stupid people created this pagan fable, the horror stories, that our ancestors worshipped gods and trees. No, they were convinced in God's ancient knowledge and ancient terachings of His Divine Order of this world, wherein we were created in His image and where the plant and the animal world co-exist." - Heinrich Himmler. Die Schutzstaffel als antibolschewistische Kampforganisation.

Alternate translation:

"This concept of law included the holy conviction of our ancestors that everything in life and on earth was created by God and had a soul. SILLY, MALICIOUS AND STUPID PEOPLE have twisted this into the FABLE that our ANCESTORS WORSHIPPED GODS AND TREES. No, according to ancient knowledge and ancient teachings, they were convinced of the DIVINE ORDER of this whole world, of all of the plant and animal kingdoms." - Heinrich Himmler. Die Schutzstaffel als antibolschewistische Kampforganisation.

But there is much more than that. The fact that the SS upheld the same ideals as the medieval orders of Christian knights is described at length in Himmler's paper Die Schutzstaffel als antibolschewistische Kampforganisation:

https://archive.org/details/0049HeinrichHimmlerDieSchutzstaffelAlsAntibolschewistischeKampforganisation

One English version:

https://archive.org/details/the-schutzstaffel-as-an-anti-bolshevist-combat-organization

At the end of Himmler's paper is a section titled Faith in God with a series of questions which men of the SS were expected to answer in a particular way. Some English translations write "a God" rather than "God" in some places, which is from a phrase which also means "one God". So the very use of words is a repudiation of paganism. The words which precede the questions, where it says "So wahr uns Gott helfe!", are a specific appeal to the God of the Bible, used in German political oaths to this day.  From Himmler's other statements in the same section, concerning God as the Creator of all things and man being made in His image, to claim that he was not referring to the Chrstian God is patently dishonest.

The term "God" in all of these contexts had been almost exclusively Christian in Germany from at least the time of Otto I until the appearance of the perverted jewess Helena BNlavatsky and her followers, such as Guido Von List, who preached New-age Wotanism and claimed it was a revival of a religion of the ancient Germans, which is a pathetic sort of revisionism, and Hitler mocked it in Mein Kampf and later.